1. Ralph says:
    May 8, 2012 at 4:53 pm

    Fred,
    Have you read Abraham Lincoln, Vampire Killer? It is a fun book.

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  2. Nissa Annakindt says:
    May 8, 2012 at 4:55 pm

    Yes, there is a crying need out there for Amish vampire fiction— even if they are romances (ick!).
    And the TR vs zombies thing? I’d read it.

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  3. Ralph says:
    May 8, 2012 at 4:57 pm

    Nissa – see http://www.challies.com/ramblings/the-ultimate-christian-novel

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  4. Galadriel says:
    May 8, 2012 at 5:28 pm

    That is sad. Both of the lists, actually. I have read considerable amounts of Kingsbury, but that was an availibilty thing. And bragging rights for reading them before my mom did. Not that they’re awful…just ….not my favorite. And I got sort of turned off Blackstock when the fourth book in her semi-apocolyptic series had a main character die through entirely preventable causes.

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  5. Kessie says:
    May 8, 2012 at 6:14 pm

    About the only positive thing I can see in these lists is the power of series. Look how all these authors get more and more popular every book!
     
    Also, CBA seems to be holding true to the demographic of middle aged white women doing the buying. I think if we want to change Christian books, we need to change the demographic. How that’s to be done, I have no idea.

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    • Jessica Thomas says:
      May 9, 2012 at 12:48 pm

      “the power of series”

      Yep.  And guess what I don’t have much interest in writing.  I don’t even like reading books that are part of a series.  They intimidate me.  It’s like committing to War and Peace.  I barely have time to read one book, let along an entire series.  *sigh*  Why can’t I be like the normal people…

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  6. Timothy Stone says:
    May 8, 2012 at 6:21 pm

    I don’t think it’s entirely a case of lack of interest as much as it is of a lack of marketing to tell folks of these books. I have only known of these types of Christian spec books, mostly fantasy in my case, as I’ve seen the sight here, so I’ve known where to look. For those who don’t specifically look, there is very little real marketing, methinks.
     
    I have read a total of ONE Kingsbury book, Unlocked, for personal reasons due to having had a handicapped brother (who is with Christ now). Then again, I actually LIKE inspirational and romantic (there are few genres I don’t like), so that’s not saying much.
     
    Sir, are the Charlainne Harris books good? I’ve heard that the author tries to make a comparison between her fictional vampires and homosexuals as supposedly oppressed in real life, and that it lays it on kind of thick. Of course, logically, that is an ABSURD comparison, but I don’t need to have the supposed “need” for moral acceptance of perversion shoved in my face. I ask, because if I’m wrong in what I’ve heard, I’d love know so I can consider reading them.

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    • Fred Warren says:
      May 8, 2012 at 9:45 pm

      They were okay, nothing earthshattering, pretty much supernatural murder mysteries with a touch of romance. The stories are set in the Southeastern U.S., and a lot of the locales and cultural references were familiar from the several years we spent living there. There’s a lot of tongue-in-cheek humor, and overall, they’re fairly lighthearted. I didn’t see any homosexual advocacy in the stories or the interviews I’ve read, though I suppose somebody could draw an analogy there if they tried.
      The HBO TV series derived from the books, True Blood, went very dark and sexually explicit (no surprise for HBO), which isn’t representative of the books as I remember them, but I only read the first two. Ms. Harris has also written a couple of conventional murder mystery series that I’ve not read but my wife enjoys very much.

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  7. Rebecca LuElla Miller says:
    May 8, 2012 at 7:51 pm

    Fred, these best-seller lists aren’t happy news, but they also aren’t particularly accurate. A few years ago, when the whole system of counting sales was in flux, Brandilyn Collins wrote a couple posts (part 1, part 2, and part 3 for follow-up questions) explaining the issue. BTW, in the first post she explained that the lists were compiled two months ahead of data. So the May list would actually reflect March sales.

    I found this particularly interesting from Brandilyn’s comments:

    So–the bestseller lists certainly don’t show all sales, but neither does any bestseller list out there. Secular lists work in the same way–sales reported from a set number of participating stores. And secular lists never use Christian bookstore data, while the Christian list doesn’t use secular bookstore data. That’s why when you see a Christian book hit a secular bestseller list, that book is really selling, because one of its biggest venues for selling–the Christian bookstores–have no representation at all.

    You also might be interested in the comparison of the CBA (Christian Booksellers Association) list with the ECPA (Evangelical Christian Publishing Association) list — not the same results. Here’s the link to the last one of these Brandilyn published on her blog (she’s left her material up — some great writer resources — but has not blogged since Dec. 2010).

    Neither list, however, show great sales for speculative fiction and there are many, many good books out there that deserve recognition, as the comments to yesterday’s post show us.

    Without a doubt, marketing/promotion is part of the issue — which is why I think it’s important for readers of speculative fiction to be vocal in our support of good books, and not just among ourselves.

    Becky

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    • Fred Warren says:
      May 8, 2012 at 9:12 pm

      Ah, that explains the date on the CBA list.
      Yeah, these are just a snapshot, and a narrow one at that. I was a little surprised that Dekker and Peretti didn’t show up on both lists.  Series accumulate word of mouth and help an author’s name recognition, and TV exposure hasn’t hurt either Game of Thrones or the Charlaine Harris books.
      Though the ECPA and CBA lists aren’t quite the same, most of the same titles appear in both, though the placement is shuffled a bit.

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  8. Rebecca LuElla Miller says:
    May 8, 2012 at 7:57 pm

    Here is the current ECPA best-seller list for fiction.

    Becky

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  9. Morgan L. Busse says:
    May 8, 2012 at 8:45 pm

    Becky, I think you hit on a critical point: marketing. In order to sell, you need visibility. But many of us from small publishers don’t have the budget for lots of marketing. I’ve been blessed to have some free promotions come my way. 
     
     
     
     

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  10. Timothy Stone says:
    May 8, 2012 at 9:54 pm

    Thank you Sir. 🙂
     
    Maybe we need to do more “marketing” as Christians who write (in your cases) or read (in all our cases) such books. Use word of mouth and that sort of thing.

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  11. Jessica Thomas says:
    May 9, 2012 at 12:43 pm

    Oh my gosh…vampire amish romance…you HAVE to do this.  I’m not kidding.  Please oh please!

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