1. John Weaver says:

    But sometimes Christianity can be better conveyed by novels that lack this “preachy” aesthetic. For instance, Graham Greene’s works are some of the most powerful endorsements of Christian belief extant, but they do not hit you over the head. Nor does Leif Enger’s Peace Like a River. I think what people are looking for is some realism and some depth of characterization, both of which tend to be lacking in Christian fiction. Nothing against what you’re saying, just my input.

    Best wishes,

    • John — absolutely agreed. Similarly, I don’t want to give the impression that the American church is just fine and not prone to consumerism, putting politics over the Gospel, entertainment-drivenness and other things. But I think what may get lost in many people’s desire to correct these things is that some people won’t be pleased no matter what Christians do. The Christian fiction issue is a microcosm of that. Thus, perhaps authors ought to consider first what God thinks of their work, then fair-minded readers, and not with what certain anti-Christian critics — who won’t be pleased would anything except non-Christianity — will think.

  2. Christian says:

    Great series of articles, Stephen. That reminds me of an Amazon review I read for Frank Peretti’s This Present Darkness/Piercing the Darkness. The reviewer mentioned that they really enjoyed his novels but thought that it was unfair to cast New Age/Wiccan people as the bad guys . The reviewer was a Wiccan and tried to convince readers of their ‘harmlessness’. Interesting, yes?

    • Interesting paradox: so Frank Peretti is a rotten dude for portraying New-Agers (or some of them, anyway) as the bad guys, but it’s okay to criticize Peretti.

      By the way, I would not at all put even the earlier, more “pulpy” Peretti novels in the category of “preachy” Christian novels. His themes were about spiritual warfare (though I would find some Biblical objections to some of his speculation), so it naturally follows that “preaching” about demons, angels, and moreover our sins and Christ and His salvation, will be key plot elements. To object to those is to object to the novel’s reason for being written. Might as well complain that it takes the form of words!

  3. Christian says:

    Very true, Stephen. And yet the New Age reviewer still managed to enjoy the books. This is a crazy world. 🙂

  4. Kaci Hill says:

    I don’t know that that one would be any worse than saying something like “I really enjoyed the movie, despite the Christian guy coming off poorly.”

  5. It may surprise you to learn that I’m commenting to agree with everything you said. Wow, huh? 🙂 And you quoted Kevin DeYoung. That makes me smile.

    I just want to add one thought… I think people dislike ANY philosophy or worldview or religion that comes across as “preachy.” I’m thinking of Phillip Pullman and Terry Goodkind. I know several believers who have read Pullman’s “His Dark Materials” books and said, “actually, the story was pretty good if he just could have been less heavy-handed about the philosophy.” Of course, your mileage may vary.

    Terry Goodkind’s first book, “Wizard’s First Rule,” had a huge following, even though the book is flawed. I read the book years ago and loved it. It wasn’t until I got to book four in the series that I started to think his main character needed to get over himself. A lot of other fans got there much earlier than I did. I’ve since read that although all of his books are heavily influenced by Ayn Rand and Goodkind’s own philosophical leanings in that direction, it wasn’t until he got to book four and beyond that he started to get really preachy. I’ve read reviews of his series that basically said, “it started out fine, but when he started trying to convert me, I gave up.”

    All this too say… All philosophical leanings can be done in a manner that turns off readers. It’s not just preachy Christian fiction.


  6. Stephen, this article echoes a conversation I had earlier today. Since I agree with just about everything you said, I’ll be brief in my comments (or I’ll try, anyway).

    First, sometimes I get the feeling that people simply haven’t read much speculative fiction, Christian or not. Much as I enjoy golden age scifi, those early authors tend to go way overboard on the philosphical (which is secular preachiness), often to the detriment of the story. I mean, I love Bradbury, but he does far better in short stories than novels (I defy anyone to read Fahrenheit 451 and not feel like the point was hammered home with the finesse of a sledgehammer). Asmivo’s Foundation and Earth took his earlier, more understated ideas and really almost shoved them in the reader’s face (with whole chapters devoted to the characters rehashing the same conversations ad naseum). Even were one to overlook the overt atheism and humanism these works contain, let’s also remember that almost all early science fiction was written by men, for men, and thus largely sexist. So, I’d say preachiness is an adjective that describes a lot of the genre; it simply depends on what one is preaching.

    Plus, I can overlook these flaws when the heart of the story is engaging and thought-provoking. I enjoy Star Trek, though I chuckle when Kirk boldly tells aliens that humanity has no more need of gods. I love Babylon 5, even if it’s obvious that J. Michael Straczynski is advocating a “god is an alien” myth. I can wade through pages and pages of philosphical, scientific ponderings if it actually leads somewhere (a la the earlier Foundation series). Having just finished Overbridge’s Thirteenth Crusader, I am impressed once again with his deft handling of religiously toned conversations that avoid easy answers, make you stare at the unpleasant world in all spiritual honesty, and turn everything you thought you knew about your and the character’s beliefs on their heads (decidedly not preachy). The very fact that the main character identifies himself as a Christian and actively talks about his faith with others may mean some will turn away; if so, they’ll be missing an amazingly complex story, one that just might challenge them as a person (let alone anything spiritual).

    But hey, I also think Nietz’s DarkTrench series is on a level playing field with the best of hard classic scifi, and I read an Amazon review once that cautioned others to avoid it based on its preachiness. Guess sometimes people just aren’t open to other ideas. 😉

    Finally: wow, wow, wow, you guys are interviewing Kathy Tyers?! I just received MLP’s Annotated Firebird and can not wait to dive back into those books, plus the new ones she’s pledged to write. I await this interview with great eagerness.

  7. It’s funny.

    No one ever says “It’s too secular. It’s too worldly.”

    We have been given the opportunity to BE Christ through writing, not merely preach about Him. Sadly, many see the word “Christian” and they shy away. Some down right throw up the middle finger to it.

    It’s true.

    Right on when you said “Not even Scripture itself proclaims the full Gospel message…” Indeed.

    Many Christians feel they MUST use Scripture in every situation. Not what Christ had in mind. This pushes many away.

    I say, “I am not a Christian writer, I am a Christian who writes.”

    Rebecca is familiar with this quote of mine :}.

    This blog is very poignant and is in my blogroll. This blog is important.

  8. Right on when you said “Not even Scripture itself proclaims the full Gospel message…” Indeed.

    Thanks for your encouragement, so much! Just to clarify, though, Tymothy, just in case: Scripture itself does proclaim the full Gospel message. But it doesn’t do so “in every single chapter, page or book” (the rest of the quote). Instead it takes the full body of God’s inspired work to do that. Just as our lives, what we do and what we say, reveal Christ’s personality and what He’s done (the Gospel) to others, so should a truly Christian author’s “full body of work.”

    I do believe there is a risk to overcorrecting and and saying “be Jesus, don’t talk about Him.” Christ tells us to do both if we love Him. But exactly how we do that is at issue — we didn’t feel we must all be soapbox street preachers or else be failing.

    Moreover, some people who object to Christian fiction simply want to “see Christians acting like Jesus,” but don’t want to be told about sin. Those sorts of catch-22 critics are sprinkled amongst the genuine sorts who’ve been burned or bummed by the church and really would embrace genuine Christianity if they saw it. So it takes discernment to sort through specific critics’ causes — not accepting all of the critics (of Christian fiction or the Church) as genuine or rejecting all of them as chronic malcontents.

    The other side of this issue is that of relegating overt preaching as somehow less important than Christian creative works, including novels. That’d be that whole Priesthood of Artists notion, which I confess to lapsing toward on occasion. Yet again, some critics pick on even well-done Christian creative works. They may say it’s the “preachiness” they dislike, but what they mean is they dislike honest, authentic, truth-and-grace Christianity itself.

  9. “Just to clarify, though, Tymothy, just in case: Scripture itself does proclaim the full Gospel message. But it doesn’t do so “in every single chapter, page or book” (the rest of the quote). Instead it takes the full body of God’s inspired work to do that. Just as our lives, what we do and what we say, reveal Christ’s personality and what He’s done (the Gospel) to others, so should a truly Christian author’s “full body of work.”

    Oh, of course good sir. Amen.

    Indeed. Great points all around.

  10. John Weaver says:

    As regards the New Agers in Peretti, they do come off a bit ridiculous. Also, anti-New Age hysteria in the Christian right during the 80’s and 90’s hurt many people, not all of them New Agers. For instance, the craziness associated with the SRA (Satanic Ritual Abuse) scandal, in which hundreds of people were falsely accussed of horrendous acts of child abuse that they had not in fact committed (see Michael Cueno’s excllent and balanced work on Exorcism in a Land of Plenty).

    To be frank, I think CBA fiction is going to be seen as second-rate until it concerns itself more with aesthetics and literary quality than it does with “message” preaching. In all modesty, writing better sci-fi than the current CBA output is not very hard. I’ve done it, and I’m not even published (except in a lit theory journal). My stuff could be published in CBA, but wouldn’t, not because it isn’t Christian, but because its Christianity is sometimes liberal and often doubtful, which is, of course, far worse.

  11. Marion says:

    This is an excellent post.
    I believe there will always be a tension in any kind of art.  Unfortunately, when it comes to Christian Fiction..the world (and even Christianity) has put an extra of tension (even stigma) to it.
    We have a belief in modern society that people can be totally objective and produce works without any subjective feelings.  That’s hogwash!
    Your worldview (Christian or secular) will color everything you do and how you see the world.
    Christian fiction is no different.  I was in the camp..that I didn’t want to read Christian Fiction that was too preachy.  But, if that author is a Christian…their worldview will color their work no matter how much I wanted to avoid it.
    I just recently read Lost Mission by Athol Dickson and it was Christian Fiction done very well.
    Here’s a review from my blog:
    And I just finished reading Leviathan by Paul Auster and he is not a Christian but definitely had a philosophical, postmodernism worldview in that novel. It was an interesting read and Auster is a very talented author.
    Here’s that review:
    Both stories show whether Christian or Secular that we can’t avoid subjectivity in a work of art.
    The key becomes the author’s skill, the context of the story, and the ability to appreciate a work even if it doesn’t agree with your worldview and it makes you think.

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