SFF Friendly Editors Do Exist: An Interview With Andy Meisenheimer
As I announced on Friday at A Christian Worldview of Fiction, we have the privilege here at Spec Faith of an exclusive, first-time interview with Zondervan acquisitions editor Andy Meisenheimer.
I didnât discuss this with him, but Iâm hoping he will drop by Spec Faith and answer your questions. At any rate, weâd love to have you commentâlet him know what you think of Christian science fiction and fantasy and about having another SFF friendly editor in Christian publishing.
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RLM: Andy, I really appreciate you taking the time for this dialogue. I know writers who havenât met you are curious about this new Zondervan editor who likes science fiction and fantasy. Maybe you can tell us first about your backgroundâwhere you were born, grew up, went to school, that sort of thing.
AM: Sure. I was born in St. Louis, MO. Middle child of three boys. Grew up in central Illinois. Took piano lessons since second grade, made it into Wheaton Conservatory of Music as a piano performance major. Graduated, though, with a BA in English Litâthe music program and I didnât get along so well. I wanted to learn guitar and bass and percussion and play with the theater group and the worship teams, they wanted me to sit alone in a 4×4 room with a grand piano and plunk away at some dead guyâs music for a couple of hours a day. I like music by dead guys, but theyâre boring companions.
Weâll be moving to Grand Rapids soon to join the fine people at Zondervan once our adoption is finalized. We have a beautiful little boy in Guatemala (born 4/18/06) who is waiting very patiently for his new mom and dad to come and bring him home.
RLM: Adopting a Guatemalan! Now youâve hit a soft spot with me since I spent some time there. But weâre not talking about me, right? Tell us how you became a Christian.
AM: Well, heck, Iâm one of those people who kinda grew up without a definable moment of “becoming” a Christian. And in the end, Iâve experienced enough of God that I canât ever become an atheist. But my spiritual journey was born out of life with a Christian family: summer camps, youth groups, being excused from sex ed, Michael W. Smith 2, Baker Street Sports Gang, that sort of thing. Since then Iâve become a Calvinist and then Pentecostal and then Episcopalian, with a few other things scattered in-between. But you know, I like to meet God in more unusual places. I see God when Iâm with my mom and dad and experience how he turned frustrated angry parents and a rebellious little boy into the best of friends. I see God when Iâm with my wife and we cover over each otherâs mistakes and occasional bad attitudes with love. I see God when my puppy dogs cuddle up against my legs as I read, even if I may have momentarily yelled at them no barking, Iâm on a conference call.
RLM: You yell at your puppy dogs? That must make you ⌠like the rest of us. And here we thought editors all walked on water.
You’ve been married six years, I understand. How did you and your wife meet? (Everyone loves a love story, right?)
AM: We met at Wheaton. I was the cute (so Iâve been told) redheaded piano player for the campus worship team; she, the gorgeous alto vocalist with curly hair. Iâd play the piano, and sheâd sit next to me on the bench and sing. Then weâd get out the book of Psalms and start making up our own songs ⌠late into the night. And we fell in love. It seems so long ago; now weâre even better friends, even more in love; we are Netflix addicts, especially when it comes to TV shows (The Office, The X-files, Firefly, Dead Like Me), we read together, we like to hike, we love our dogs, and we like to veg out on Playstation 2. You want a fantasy fan, Mandy canât get enough of the Gauntlet and Baldurâs Gate series. Oh, did I mention that? Mandy and Andy. Our names rhyme.
RLM: Now thatâs perfect for a love story.
What put you on the path to becoming an editor? Is the job what you expected so far?
AM: Well, Iâve always read books. I read even before I went to school; I had (still have) a stack of those read-along records and each day I would go through every single one until I figured out what the words meant. Growing up, my parents would only let me read approved titles, so I read everything in my local Christian bookstore that my parents would buy. (Also, my folks were okay with the Hardy boys and Shakespeare.)
Once I hit high school, I started visiting the library on my own and reading what I wanted to read. I wrote a lot of stories, though I have no idea where they are now. From there I went on to study English lit at Wheaton. I got a job at the local Christian bookstore, and when I graduated Wheaton I became the book buyer at that store. Hereâs where you start seeing the editor in me: I would take Advance Readerâs Copies of novels, get out my pen, and start scribbling comments and changes throughout. I think I even dared once to send the book back to the publisher. I really hope it wasnât Zondervan.
When my Zondervan sales rep left, I applied for his position. And thatâs where Iâve been for the past three years, as the Illinois-Wisconsin-Minnesota sales rep for Zondervan. Honestly, from day one at Zondervan I wanted to be an editor here, and I believe that within a few months I said as much to the person who is now my boss. So if thereâs one lesson Iâve learned, itâs: be bold. Whatâs the worst that could happen. And I love my job. No regrets.
RLM: In your ACFW conference bio, you mentioned an interest in speculative fiction. What are your favorites and when did you first realize SFF had a pull on you?
AM: Very short list of favorites, mostly for their spiritual value, includes Orson Scott Card, Mary Doria Russell, Ray Bradbury, Stephen Lawhead, Madeleine LâEngle, Red Mars, Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire. Iâm constantly trying to read more of both genres; I constantly get stuck on one author and end up ignoring many more. For instance, Iâm listening to OSCâs The Worthing Saga right now, and I have Enderâs Shadow as the next on my list. I gotta branch out more, I know. I find that sci-fi gets tiresome when it is so scientific that it denies any spiritual possibilities. And fantasy, on the other hand, gets tiresome when it works so hard to have spiritual possibilities.
I understood the genre better when I took Modern Mythology at Wheaton. I think if weâre all honest, unless weâre intellectually blocking it, all of us respond on a gut level to myth.
RLM: Mmmm. I couldnât agree more and have my own theory why that might be so. There could be a future blog post in that topic.
What future do you see for SFF written from a Christian worldview?
AM: If itâs good SFF, then it doesnât matter what worldview itâs from, itâll last. If itâs bad SFF, then it doesnât matter what worldview itâs from, itâll disappear.
I worry sometimes about CSFF. In todayâs world, weâve taken the great CSFF, namely Lewis and Tolkien, and even pop SFF, such as Harry Potter and the Matrix, and boiled them down to allegorical or symbolic moments. We pick apart the lives of these characters and their stories, defining them as meaningful God-moments or throwaway not-God-moments, and then try to construct our own CSFF around all God-moments. But lifeâevery single part of it, every stroke of the paintbrushâis God-moments. And fiction that tries to discern a non-God-moment and erase it from the possibilities is missing part of the painting.
RLM: I agree that all of life is made up of God-moments. I like the way you phrase that, but Iâll need to think about how that looks in fiction.
A number of Christian SFF writers have opted to self-publish or to sign with a small or POD publisher. Do you think this movement will help or hurt CSFF with traditional CBA publishers and why?
AM: There are lots of other people out there much more qualified to answer this. But I think youâll see as a whole that self-publishing or POD publishers are great if youâre convinced that you have the best manuscript youâll ever have, youâve made a noticeable contribution to the genre, youâre going to personally sell many thousands of copies of the book, and you want to try to get noticed by a big publisher for your next book. If youâre just going to sell 500 copies, why not wait until you get yourself a contract and a publishing house to back you with editorial, marketing, publicity, sales, design, etc.?
RLM: What do you think CSFF writers should be doing to enhance the status of speculative fiction?
AM: Write really good SFF. People already read it, watch it, and listen to it, so itâs just a matter of getting enough really good SFF, written by Christians, out there.
RLM: What advice would you give to a CSFF writer?
AM: Number one, know the genre, and I mean outside of the CBA know the genre. The SFF thatâs going to be successful is SFF that can stand on its own outside of the Christian worldview. If youâre not more well-read than I am, then I worry about you, because Iâm terribly under-read.
Two, challenge the genre. Not every sci-fi is about light speed travel in the 2200âs. Not every fantasy has elves and castles. Thereâs pulp, pop, literary, techno, cyber, chick-lit, romance, spy, mystery, conspiracy versions of SFF (to name a few). Thereâs so much possibility to play with genres that I wouldnât be surprised if the next big CSFF hit was more The Time-Travelerâs Wife than The Lord of the Rings.
Three, take note; many SFF authors donât even intentionally put Christian elements in their books, but we, as Christians, still see them. Meaning: you could probably write like a âheathenâ SFF writer and still come up with something that would still be spiritually meaningful. God is âfoundâ in powerful stories with rich characters, more than he is found in explicit Christian content, symbols and allegory, and character conversions.
RLM: Great to get to know you better, Andy. Again, I appreciate your willingness to fit this into your schedule.