1. Yeah, I was waiting for them to say we chose ourselves. Good movie, though the love aspect left me a little dissatisfied. It was like bad philosophy done by scientists. That’s where the movie jumped the shark for me. But it was definitely interesting and worth watching.

    • I’m curious why you perceived the film’s “love aspect” as “bad philosophy.” Was it because some of the characters attempted to quantify love as a physical dimension? That sounds to me more like a scientific hypothesis than a philosophical assertion.

      • Mark Carver says:

        Love transcends dimensions, as the film claims, only if there are two beings who love one another and happen to be in separate dimensions. Love isn’t a force that binds particles or ripples through space-time. There were some parts of the film’s dialogue, particularly Hathaway’s self-defense of her feelings, that seemed forced in there to connect to the average Joe or Jane in the audience. It was as if the scriptwriters thought, “This film might be too science-y, and moviegoers like stories with heart. Let’s slather on some metaphysical ponderings about love and its place in the universe so people won’t be too weirded out.”

        We don’t need to be told how powerful love is, but we also don’t need to be talked down to about what love actually might be. The film’s desperate attempt to explain love in pseudo-scientific terms isn’t surprising though, since God was nowhere to be found in the story, and when you start talking about love on a macro-scale, you have to either bring God into the equation or else relegate the idea to the unknowable “higher dimension” (or explain it in purely practical/social terms as McConnaughey did, which made the most sense considering the movie’s worldview).

        • Right. The plot’s materialist magic-system required a variable that’d allow Cooper to pinpoint a specific date and location inside three-dimensional spacetime while communicating from inside the tesseract. The only way such a scenario would be viable in a naturalistic model is if love was physically quantifiable — perhaps even the stuff of the fifth dimension. It’s a plot device, pure and simple, though no more ludicrous than the next option when we start talking about higher dimensions (which are, by definition, incomprehensible).

          I think it’s unfortunate that the idea of “love” carries so much cheesy, cliched baggage; otherwise, this hand-wave of love into a purely materialistic form would’ve likely come across to most viewers as an intriguing take. False, of course, but not “desperate.” The naturalist has a need to explain love, after all (there being no social utility in affection for the dead, as Brand points out), and I appreciate the honesty of the film for at least not ignoring that dilemma.

  2. Austin:

    The plot’s materialist magic-system …

    Wording intentional?

    We [demons] are really faced with a cruel dilemma. When the humans disbelieve in our existence we lose all he pleasing results of direct terrorism and we make no magicians. On the other hand, when they believe in us, we cannot make them materialists and sceptics. At least, not yet. I have great hopes that we shall learn in due time how to emotionalise and mythologise their science to such an extent that what is, in effect, belief in us, (though not under that name) will creep in while the human mind remains closed to belief in the Enemy. The “Life Force”, the worship of sex, and some aspects of Psychoanalysis, may here prove useful. If once we can produce our perfect work-the Materialist Magician, the man, not using, but veritably worshipping, what he vaguely calls “Forces” while denying the existence of “spirits”-then the end of the war will be in sight.

    C.S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters, Letter VII (emphasis added)

    • Not an intentional allusion, no, though Screwtape might’ve rejoiced to see Interstellar. Me, I don’t ascribe nearly that kind of seductive power to the film’s pseudoscience. Aside from the fact that a future-dependant past is logically impossible without appealing to parallel universes (Grandfather Paradox, anyone?), the film is, I think, quite transparent about the conjectured nature of everything that occurs beyond the event horizon. In fact, the entire story is science fantasy: we only get within reach of a black hole to study by taking advantage of a wormhole that magically appears, and whose appearance is supposedly dependant on what we do when inside the black hole (and no one knows what’s inside a black hole or if anything is capable of surviving therein). What Interstellar does is to say that if certain convenient and inexplicable things happened, then we, based on our current understanding of physics, might be able to do X, Y, and Z.

      While a secularist may well choose to believe in the universe postulated by the film, there’s no possible means whereby such beliefs could be described as “science.” In which case we as Christians are at least back to square one — facing off against self-admitted pagans instead of those still hiding behind a cloak of objectivity-by-association.

  3. Julie D says:

    Now I’m really intrigued–and at the same time, convinced that my family will never be able to sit through even the first half-hour.

  4. I’m a bit late to this party, but I find it fascinating in this discussion that we’re taking Cooper’s existential realization of “it was me/us all along” at face value; that simply because he discovered how he communicated with his daughter through time, mankind is singularly responsible for all else within the movie. As was pointed out repeatedly throughout the movie, we’re dealing with something on a higher dimension than our own understanding. I actually thought Brand’s peon to love the most singularly explicit representation of God that a godless society could accept: as God is love, and exists outside of the rules of space/time, He is a force to be reckoned with beyond what we can see, feel, or know. As with any other journey we go on in life, I think Cooper’s trip has far more to do with a force beyond his knowledge (and therefore control) than he or even the filmmakers might be prepared to recognize.

    And we’ve all seen worse explanations for divinity (I’m looking at you Final Frontier).

    It’s good to see you writing another review Austin; I’d love to see more of your thoughts up here at Spec Faith. Coming from the theatrical background I do, I personally focused more on the storycraft rather than the philosophy of the film in my blog’s review, but it was great to read such a thoughtful consideration of the underpinning ideas. I’m certainly looking forward to viewing the film again (and wow, can I just say, I really want that soundtrack).

    • Thanks Michelle — I try to post a review on SpecFaith at least once a month, but, since reviews have been stacking up of late, you should be seeing more content from me here shortly.

      Your point is well taken that the film’s higher-dimensional “beings,” being unobserved, have the potential to be practically anything or anyone — whether future-tense transcendant humans, sufficiently-advanced-technology-is-equivalent-to-magic aliens, or a force of the supernatural, whether the God we know or something else. I chose to take Cooper’s word as gospel regarding the nature of said “beings” because it’s clear that was the filmmakers’ intent. But yes — not only would such beings operate outside the realm of logic, but their nature and even their very existence would be impossible to verify with science. Kinda like God outside of special revelation.

      And yeah, the Final Frontier comparison occurred to me as well … *shudder* Say what I might about Interstellar‘s nonsensical philosophical premises, it’s certainly better than that.

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