1. Johne Cook says:

    I think it’s a question of emphasis more than anything. Too much focus on the dark, and the light is ‘filtered’ (good word). Too much focus on the light and the darkness seems tame (and thus minimizes conflict).
    If I want hope and light, I’ll read something like Guideposts. Otherwise, in fiction, I want strong conflict and a believable redemption story. There has to be enough darkness for the light to shatter when it impacts it, and enough light that the darkness isn’t painted as overwhelming.
    That worked for the masters (whose names we all know by now). I think that same approach can work for us, as well.

  2. Jeremy W says:

    The problem with all kinds of lovely, good things happening in a story is that they make it impossible to relate to. We all know hard times better than the easy ones. A true story about good things happening is fine and dandy, since it actually happened, but that doesn’t translate to fiction very well. (With the exception of Christian missionary novels, but that’s not a can of Worms I want a part of.)

    In the end, it comes down to what you said: we have different tastes. But let’s remember that fiction is art in many more ways than a retelling of something true. The former takes metaphor, contrast, blood, tears and meticulous attention to detail. I can’t help but see nonfiction as cheating.

    (With that said, nonfiction is wonderful. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with it. At all. Nothing. Please don’t take me out of context.)

    • QUOTE “The problem with all kinds of lovely, good things happening in a story is that they make it impossible to relate to. We all know hard times better than the easy ones. A true story about good things happening is fine and dandy, since it actually happened, but that doesn’t translate to fiction very well.”

      That’s true, but I don’t think Becky’s advocating that we write stories about lovely, good things so much as that we give Light a power and a reality in our stories that is at least as strong as the darkness. On the surface, the three books Becky referred to are not “lovely” or “good” at all–they’re absolutely awful. And yet, in real life, all three of these women found the Light to be stronger than the Darkness, and that in the very MIDST of darkness. In fact, there’s a line in The Hiding Place in which Corrie’s sister basically says that when they leave the concentration camp and tell people about God’s love, people will believe them because they have been to Hell and seen that God is there.

      And I think that kind of story translates to fiction very well.

      • the three books Becky referred to are not “lovely” or “good” at all–they’re absolutely awful. And yet, in real life, all three of these women found the Light to be stronger than the Darkness, and that in the very MIDST of darkness.

        Precisely, Rachel. It is the “in the very midst” part I want to see light. I don’t like mucking about in the quagmire of sin for hundreds of pages, even if the light does come crashing in at the end. I want to see hope so I can root for it. I want to be part of the struggle for the good, not just against the evil.

        To me these are not small differences.

        Becky

    • Jeremy, Rachel has given you an excellent answer.

      Nothing about the books I named shied away from a full look at the evil those people faced. Joni Eareckson Tada, for example, is still in a wheelchair, still unable to comb her own hair or jog around the block or step into the shower or … the list is long. Yet, as hard as life is for her, she serves and loves and glorifies God and looks forward to heaven. She gives me hope because I see through her actions a response to suffering that is … not easy, but right. Yet she’s an ordinary person, not superhuman.

      That’s the model I’m talking about. I’d like to see more stories that tell the truth about life (darkness) while also telling the truth about light (God).

      To me the best stories show the two without an overemphasis of one or the other. But I think there are people who may like more light and little darkness or others who like more darkness and light coming in at the end to shatter the darkness.

      Neither of those is for me. They just aren’t. I prefer the Daniel model to the Job model, if you will.

      Becky

  3. Galadriel says:

    Good point. My stories tend to have dark moments, but also light

  4. james somers says:

    Usually in fiction we find our tension, our problem to be solved, our need for a hero in the darkness. Yes, we also relate to the darkness and we tend to gravitate to things we find familiar. But consider the Bible itself. How much darkness do we find in it? In all honesty, God has revealed a tremendous amount of darkness in His Word. It is the truth and the Lord doesn’t fail to show it to us. In contrast we see our Holy God. Our wickedness and that of those fallen spirits who rebelled against Him long ago and still wage war against His people today. We find the awful nature of sin and its terrifying consequences.

    Be honest…the darkness is compelling isn’t it? Not that we long to run to the darkness, but to see if for what it is in comparison with who God is and what God seeks to make of mankind through the sacrifice of His son.

    Good Christian Spec can do the same….give us a glimpse at real darkness so that we long for the light that much more 🙂

    • James, you’re right about the Bible and darkness, of course, but it isn’t a book of darkness without light until we reach the end. Even in the books of prophecy when Jeremiah or Ezekiel is pronouncing doom or predicting impending punishment, there is promised restoration and clear statements of God’s faithfulness.

      The darkest book is probably Judges because everyone did what was right in his own eyes. The message is clear: going your own way leads to “disorder and every evil thing.”

      And I will be honest — the darkness is not compelling to me. I don’t like scenes of madness where teenagers burn cats in the family furnace or killers shooting down elderly folks at their breakfast table. Those are not compelling at all. They are horrific, and I hate them. But I’m willing to say, that’s me. Apparently other people do find these things compelling. I don’t understand it any more than you apparently understand my repulsion to what you find compelling.

      That’s why we have to say, we won’t all like the exact same kind of fiction.

      That doesn’t change the fact that I’d like to see more fiction with light amid the darkness.

      Becky

  5. Bethany J. says:

    These are good thoughts to ponder.  I know my tendency to lean toward the dark and creepy side of storytelling (odd, since I dislike dark movies and never read dark books).  I sometimes have to pull back and remind myself, “…Whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things” (Phillipians 4:8).

    Now, that doesn’t mean my books don’t have dark, scary parts in them, because they definitely do, but I try not to make things dark for the sake of darkness itself.
     

    • Bethany, I think not having dark things for the sake of darkness is critical. But in one of my other comments, I realized where I really am with this. I don’t want stories in which the protagonist is so much struggling to escape the dark as he is struggling to reach the light. I think that puts a different slant on stories.

      What do you think?

      Becky

    • Becky, I think that theme is essential, because for the Christian it is not enough simply to escape the darkness. That would be a story based only on a negative, a reaction. Without Christ and the Gospel as the positive replacement, the only sure source of joy and light, there is no such thing as “escaping the darkness” — only escapes from one kind of darkness into another.

      • Bethany J. says:

        I agree, Becky, that does put a different slant on it – and a good one.  In most books, though, I think the escaping-dark aspect is stronger and louder than the reaching-light aspect.  For example, in the Lord of the Rings, we find a very obvious struggle to stop darkness from swallowing all of Middle-Earth.  However, here and there, Tolkien leaves hints of light and beauty – a glimpse of the stars while Sam and Frodo travel, the Undying Lands at the end, etc.  It’s rare to find a story where the emphasis is on finding light, rather than simply defeating darkness.  I actually can’t think of one, aside from Pilgrim’s Progress!  I’m probably just not thinking hard enough, though.  Do you know of any examples?

        Stephen, that’s an excellent point.  Wow.  Makes me ponder my own books and whether the light at the end is emphasized enough!  🙂

  6. I wrote on article on this ages ago (though not in a specifically SpecFic context). The world is fascinated with darkness and believes that goodness, light, is shallow, boring, unreal, sappy. As Christians, people who claim to follow the resurrected Christ as we see him in the Gospels, we have no business exalting darkness and denigrating light in the same way. We KNOW goodness; we know its power and its beauty. If we can’t show that to the world, who can?
    That doesn’t mean writing stories with no darkness in them. It just means writing stories that burn with true, life-changing light.
    And that kind of story does make a difference. I heard John Piper speak about a man who shook a decades-long addiction to porn after reading a description of goodness–in a novel–that so shook and inspired him that he could not help but let it purify him.
    Incidentally, that old article of mine, “Paint the Light,” is here: http://www.boundless.org/2005/articles/a0001822.cfm

  7. Of course, in fiction, personal perception will come into play. I wrote my trilogy to “paint the light,” but lots of readers have described it as “dark.” (www.worldsunseen.com)

    • Literaturelady says:

      Hey Rachel,
      When I read this post, my first thought was of your Seventh World books!  The light you paint there is vivid and real to me as a reader.  Each time the King appears, his presence is a restoration of hope and of light.  I noted in a review of Coming Day:

      The story is so beautiful, such a mirror of the rise and fall of hope in real life, that it almost hurts the heart.
      And that brings me to the main point of this review. A while back, Rachel Starr Thomson wrote a blog post titled “Light Isn’t Boring,” in which she says,
      “Light (and the things it represents—goodness, faithfulness, glory) is not naturally boring, and we can’t afford to paint it that way in our story worlds.”
      In Coming Day, she has painted light as alive, as real, as vivid. The presence and coming of the King reflects the peace and the power and the love of Christ Himself. Light isn’t boring in this novel; it is the key to the story and the salvation of the characters. Light is what drives the darkness away, what renews hope in the characters, what adds a realistic dimension to the story. And it’s not just light she’s portrayed so well; it’s also beauty. There is beauty in the landscape of the Seventh World, even during the dark times, and there is great, powerful, peaceful beauty in the work and words of the King. I don’t know how she portrays both light and beauty in such a powerful way. I guess I’ll have to read the books over and over to learn how. Yippee!

      Blessings~
      Literaturelady

  8. Morgan Busse says:

    That is the tagline for my writing: In Darkness there is Light.

    In my writing, I do not need to paint the darkness, it is already there. My writing is about the struggle to come to the light and live in the light. Many times to stand in the light is to stand alone, to sacrifice, to give of yourself so that others may have light in their lives.

    That is what I write about. It is also what I have experienced in real life.

  9. I see your point, Rebecca. Since I started reviewing for CSFF I have been amazed at the “darkness” of many of these novels. Some are so dark, it is hard to find the light at the end of a creepy, dank tunnel. During my final edit of my upcoming book I was urged by my editor to make the story scarier and add some more “haunting” moments. I added a couple of extra scenes, but it bothered me to do so. I once proposed a book that almost made it at Multnomah and in that book I explored the moments of darkness during the last week of Jesus’ life. But, the point of each short story was that in “our darkness, we find His light”. Thus, the title “Our Darkness, His Light”. So, I keep that title framed above my monitor to remind me to focus on the light. I realize there has to be a dark moment in order to contrast with the light of Christ. I have found when we rely on human means to save us only the light of Christ’s redemptive love can truly defeat the darkness. Thanks for reminding us and drawing out attention to this danger. It is a temptation.

    I was the head of our church drama ministry for 15 years and I can tell you I enjoyed acting the villain the most of any role I portrayed, particularly Satan. We are drawn to the darkness unlike a moth drawn to the light. I recall the saying “the darkest night is just before dawn” but that is not true. The darkest night is when the moon is not out and we are halfway between sunset and sunrise. The promise of light is seen as we near the sunrise and I have seen many beautiful sunrises. Thanks for reminding us to remember to always show the light in the midst of our darkness as we write.

  10. I suspect that “darkness” in SF is rather like angst in some kinds of romance—and there’s some equivalent quality in every genre, I’m sure. That is, a quality that’s necessary in small quantities, and that can, when increased, make the final resolution greater (more glorious, sweeter, etc.)—but a quality that is dangerous (and not only artistically) in excess, yet in which it can be tempting for the reader to simply wallow.
    There’s also the tendency for us as sinful human beings to revert to our former ways and prefer darkness to light. The world would have us believe that light, like virtue, holiness, and every other good, is shoddy and inferior compared to its poor imitations, as Lewis so memorably describes in the end of The Silver Chair. And darkness can comfortably resonate with the way things are, while the light can show the way things should be and disconcertingly expose the discrepancy between the two.

  11. Here’s something I thought of after I posted my earlier comment: Darkness in fiction is not entirely determined by the subject, but is often more a matter of how we treat the subject. In The Lord of the Rings, for example, I think that Frodo’s journey into Mordor carrying the weight of the Ring has an essential “darkness” about it—but in the rest of the story, even though one might think the “facing certain defeat by an innumerable enemy” situation would be dark and despairing, for the most part Tolkien doesn’t treat it that way. Instead, he (following the sagas he was consciously imitating) shows us the shining light of courage, valor, and hope.

  12. John Weaver says:

    Dear Rebecca,
         I hardly see how Corrie solely reflected light, when she herself was fascinated with demons (she was one of the most  prominent deliverance ministers in the states after her ‘testimony’). I think darkness is a natural part of light, and as a Christian who suffers from the darkness of mental illness, I kind of get frustrated with other Christians wanting all fiction to be just light and flowers. But that’s just me.

  13. John, I’m not sure to what you refer. I’ve read nearly all of Corrie’s books, including her devotionals. Clearly she believed in the work of the Holy Spirit, active and present in the world today through various ecstatic gifts. I also was privileged to hear her speak and have since listened to the tape. In all of the writing and in the event which I attended there was nothing of a “deliverance” nature in her ministry.

    But even if there was, how does that negate her from being an example of someone who turned to light in a dark place and through dark circumstances?

    Please note, in her autobiographical account of the events surrounding World War II, Corrie did not shirk from showing the dark, so if you think I’m suggesting that speculative fiction focused on Light doesn’t truthfully paint the dark, then I’ve failed to make myself clear.

    Finally, I’m sorry for your own situation and the battles you face. I’ll admit, though, that I don’t understand how turning to dark literature is the answer for escaping a dark circumstance.

    Christ didn’t take people He healed deeper  into sickness first. He didn’t invite more demons into the demon possessed before He cast them out. He gave His presence, His touch, His word, His forgiveness, and it is those things that I believe are most helpful today as well. Why, then, I’m asking, do we think it is more important to show evil and do so realistically, than to show God and Him accurately?

     

    Becky

  14. John Weaver says:

    But what do you mean by dark literature? Dostoyevsky’s The Possessed is one of the darkest books I’ve ever read, yet it’s message is fundamentally in keeping with Christian doctrine. So is The Brother’s K and Kafka’s The Trial. I agree that literature need not be dark or heavy to be great, though it takes a talented writer to do comedy skillfully (but certainly Henry Fielding’s Tom Jones, for instance, is great comedy and art).  But most great art has some element of darkness and tragedy in it. John Milton’s Paradise Lost would not be great if Milton did not risk getting a little polluted by The Devil’s skillful lies.  I guess it depends what you mean by darkness. Sure, I can see how Christians can reject the whole vampiriczombieGoth genre, but fundamentally life IS DARK. Tolkien saw history as a “long defeat”, made brighter only by the promise of Christ’s ultimate final victory. If realism for you is light and joy, then show that. But there’s no reason why other Christians should feel constrained by those standards, nor is there a reason they should have to feel bad for showing the darkness or living it (by darkness here I mean sadness, not satanism). God does not give us all the same lives.
     
    John
     
    (Deliverance means exorcism. Corrie brought exorcism ministries to America, for which I heartily oppose her. See Michael Cueno’s book on exorcism in America for documentation).

    • Hi, John,

      By dark literature, I mean a lot more than “sad.” YA literature right now is quite dark — delving into things like cutting and eating disorders, sexual perversions and horror.

      In another post about dystopian literature — very popular in YA — I discussed some of the truly dark stories, Lord of the Flies, 1984, Brave New World, that offered no hope.

      As I see it, God is so opposite. He offers us a future and a hope, certainly, but He also gives us His presence here and now. No, He doesn’t change all our circumstances into happy, pleasant experiences, as some claim. But as Scripture says, When I pass through the waters, He is with me. When I go through the valley of the shadow of death, I don’t do so alone. When I hand Him the things that make me anxious, He supplies peace that goes beyond any I’ve previously understood. That’s reality.

      George Müller started an orphanage though he had hardly any resources. He believed God for what they needed and continued to expand. He didn’t bemoan his poverty but turned to God in trust and ended up providing care for over 10,000 orphans. That’s reality.

      Daniel’s friends refused to participate in idol worship knowing full well they would be sentenced to death. Their declaration was clear — much like Job’s “though He slay me yet will I trust Him” statement — “our God whom we serve is able to deliver us from the furnace of blazing fire; and He will deliver us out of your hand, O king. But even if He does not, let it be known to you, O king, that we are not going to serve your gods.” That’s reality.

      Are these dark stories? The circumstances are dark. Müller, devoid of resources by the world’s way of reckoning, responsible for all those children. Job, bereft of all his goods and his children, Daniel’s friends facing execution. No doubt things looked hopeless. Yet these people had hope. They did not live burdened by the darkness because they lived according to what they knew about God, not by what they knew about the world.

      I want to see stories like that because that’s reality.

      And Corrie ten Boom? I know she prayed for someone with cancer and God healed him. It’s wrong to say, though, that she had a healing ministry. She didn’t and clearly said so. Did she pray for a demon to leave someone? Perhaps. I don’t recall reading that anywhere in her writing, but that doesn’t mean she didn’t. But even so, she did not claim a ministry of exorcism — that much is evident in her books, regardless of what someone else has said about her. She told people of God’s love and forgiveness, for concentration camp victims and victimizers alike. I heard that from her own mouth. I’ve read nearly every book she wrote. Over and over she talks about Jesus Chris and His love for sinners. That message is essentially on every page, despite the suffering she experienced and the hardship she endured. Her life points to the hope a sinner has in Christ, light we can have in the darkest of places, the human heart.

       

      Becky

  15. Kaci says:

    A couple questions.
     

        I hardly see how Corrie solely reflected light, when she herself was fascinated with demons (she was one of the most  prominent deliverance ministers in the states after her ‘testimony’). I think darkness is a natural part of light, and as a Christian who suffers from the darkness of mental illness, I kind of get frustrated with other Christians wanting all fiction to be just light and flowers. But that’s just me.

     
    –So, if darkness is a natural part of light, then would it not stand to reason that if, as you say, she was “fascinated” with demons, she simply was fascinated with the natural part of light?
    –This is more a statement, but I’m still perplexed as to where all the Christians wanting “all light and flowers” are. I can think of a few, sure, but I don’t really buy the universal statement. Okay, it’s been hardwired into me to reject universal statements the moment I find them.
    –Moreover, I don’t recall Becky suggesting people only write “light.” Besides, quite frankly, you can’t see a flashlight beam when the light’s on in the room. I’m neither a fan of miserable, pointless treks into morbidity or jaunts through Candy Mountain, myself.

    by darkness here I mean sadness, not satanism

     
    I don’t think I’d go with “darkness” as “sadness.”  But for myself, I use it to describe stories with harsh subject matters (occult, human trafficking, prostitution, liars & cheats, war, intense depictions of evil, sadism, violence, murder, etc). A book about inner angst is…a book about inner angst.
     

    (Deliverance means exorcism. Corrie brought exorcism ministries to America, for which I heartily oppose her. See Michael Cueno’s book on exorcism in America for documentation).

     
    I hope you’re aware demons exist, and they can and do oppress/possess people. I’m sorry if you disagree, but you don’t even have to be a Christian to believe that. Most religions (all the ones I can think of) believe in some kind of supernatural and in some kind of evil spirit that can do some pretty nasty things to the human race.  People may abuse that, but it doesn’t negate reality. I’m honestly going to have to check on the history of exorcisms in the U. S.  It may have gained more attention, but U. S. history has a bunch of odd things that date prior to Corrie’s birth. 
     
    Moreover, not all ‘deliverance’ is ‘exorcism.’ My rather limited understanding is that there’s normally a whole process before someone is considered possessed. I know I guy I could ask.   But you can be delivered from any number of things. Demons are usually the less common kind of bondage.  Humans are rather uncanny in their ability enslave themselves, lock the shackles on their own wrists, and promptly  throw away the keys.
     
     

  16. John Weaver says:

    Hi, John,
    By dark literature, I mean a lot more than “sad.” YA literature right now is quite dark — delving into things like cutting and eating disorders, sexual perversions and horror.
    Why is dealing with cutting and eating disorders wrong? As long as the literature does not glorify these disorders, it could provide a valuable service. That’s what children are actually dealing with. We’d probably disagree on what counts as sexual perversion, but i do agree that YA lit is too sexually explicit right now. But then again, one Shakespeare play is more sexually explicit than a thousand YA novels (have you looked at what his puns mean! And all that cross dressing.). Yet few Christians claim that Shakespearean plays, complete with codpieces, corrupt the young. We are, to say the least, inconsistent.

    In another post about dystopian literature — very popular in YA — I discussed some of the truly dark stories, Lord of the Flies, 1984, Brave New World, that offered no hope.

    To me, these works are if anything imbued with Christianity, far more than most modern works (I’d also add Clockwork Orange as well). All of them are extended morality plays on what happens to the world without an objective moral or political code. They are powerful indictments of subjectvist ethics. I’m sorry, I just can’t see the problem with.
    As I see it, God is so opposite. He offers us a future and a hope, certainly, but He also gives us His presence here and now. No, He doesn’t change all our circumstances into happy, pleasant experiences, as some claim. But as Scripture says, When I pass through the waters, He is with me. When I go through the valley of the shadow of death, I don’t do so alone. When I hand Him the things that make me anxious, He supplies peace that goes beyond any I’ve previously understood. That’s reality.
    George Müller started an orphanage though he had hardly any resources. He believed God for what they needed and continued to expand. He didn’t bemoan his poverty but turned to God in trust and ended up providing care for over 10,000 orphans. That’s reality.
    Daniel’s friends refused to participate in idol worship knowing full well they would be sentenced to death. Their declaration was clear — much like Job’s “though He slay me yet will I trust Him” statement — “our God whom we serve is able to deliver us from the furnace of blazing fire; and He will deliver us out of your hand, O king. But even if He does not, let it be known to you, O king, that we are not going to serve your gods.” That’s reality.
    Are these dark stories? The circumstances are dark. Müller, devoid of resources by the world’s way of reckoning, responsible for all those children. Job, bereft of all his goods and his children, Daniel’s friends facing execution. No doubt things looked hopeless. Yet these people had hope. They did not live burdened by the darkness because they lived according to what they knew about God, not by what they knew about the world.
    I want to see stories like that because that’s reality.

    • Kaci Hill says:

      Just so we’re clear, Becky’s first example of  “dark but uplifting” was a book about a woman who winds up in Auschwitz and her second was about missionaries brutally slaughtered. Her third is about a woman who cannot move from the neck down due to a freak accident. I’m not nearly as familiar with the third, but I am familiar with the first two (and the End of the Spear movie, where my only complaint was I still feel they held back a bit).
       
      I can’t figure out what books you’re reading. Most of the Christian fiction I read is *not* scifi/fantasy (in fact, I have a kind of love/hate relationship with them, particularly scifi).  The stuff I read normally involves piling bodies, dark, intense themes, and rather gruesome violence.  I’ve read books involving a girl that cuts, messy family relationships, mindless slaughter, serial killers, sadistic villains, and guys that like to kill people rather slowly. I like books that deal with anything supernatural, spiritual warfare, and some rather insane mythology.  
       
      One of my favorite plays was written by a homosexual, actually. I was actually talking about that one today.  One book I like is about one man who’s possessed by a demon (who is rather creepy and likes to show up as a little boy playing in a skull); another one turned the protagonist into a Judas type. Another book liked to deal with all the so-lovely ways Christians can turn on another; yet another was about the way female pastors are ostracized. Another book had a guy who played psychological games with the main characters until they committed suicide.  There were several where the characters are not a one Christians and throughout the series they do not “change their ways and convert.” Good people. Not Christians.  Oh, and the one series does contain a scene where a girl is almost sexually assaulted. I know a book where a demon toyed with the protagonist, then struck him down, and another book where Satan destroys the main characters and they spend the rest of their lives in a desperate attempt to put the pieces back.
      With the exception of the play (that I know of), every last one of those books was by a contemporary Christian author (the playwright’s dead). 
       
      The problem is not  crawling into the dark space. The problem is what you do with the darkness.
       
      And there’s three kinds of readers: People who read only light-hearted books; people who read only dark and/or depressing books, and people who think life should be full of both joy and sorrow.

  17. John, I may not have been clear. In saying certain books are dark because of what they deal with, I’m not saying they’re bad. I’m saying they are dark. I think we can do better by offering hope. That’s reality. The world is a dark place, but God did not leave us without hope and help.

    I see no hope in the dystopians I mentioned. There’s nothing Christian about them. Are they true as far as they go? I actually think so, yes. I’m not sorry I read them, but I would never say they are Christian. They only identify the problem and basically say there is no solution. That’s the ultimate of dark. I’ll say again, because Christians have the whole truth, not just part of it, we can do better.

    Thanks for interacting with this article, John.

    Becky

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