1. Sparksofember says:

    And yet the villains still do their villainous deeds – they always think they’ll be the one clever enough to dodge the consequences. We just finished covering this chapter in my weekly Bible study – but I don’t think the ladies quite connected the dots the way you just did. I’m going to have to read this to them when we start meeting again in the fall.

    • I don’t think Balaam’s role in the seduction of Israel at Peor is mentioned until five or so chapters later, and Balak isn’t explicitly connected to it until Revelation. That’s the way the Bible is sometimes – it weaves stories together, or adds to them, in unexpected ways and places.

  2. dmdutcher says:

    I prefer the sympathetic villain, or the “different shades of right” villain. I didn’t always, but something that opened my eyes was the realization is that as a Christian, I am a villain now too. That in a lot of people’s minds, I follow an evil organization that needs to be suppressed or fought against.

    It’s quite a paradigm shift, and it makes it hard to like the classic “faceless evil” story. Classic myths of majority makes right can be looked at critically once you aren’t a part of it.

  3. Becky Farb says:

    I guess I like my villains with a strong arrogant streak, and the skill to back up that arrogance. It makes it so much more satisfying when they’re finally brought down.

  4. Excellent article, Shannon. I’d never thought of Balaam in these terms before. I saw him as a greedy manipulator—didn’t give him credit for intelligence or conniving.

    The kind of villain I like in fiction is one who looks like he can win and just might do so. Unless he’s a credible threat (not a bumbling buffoon), he brings the whole story down because there really is no danger.

    As you point out, a worthy villain elevates the hero who must work that much harder or be that much smarter to bring him down.

    Becky

    • Thanks, Becky.

      Villains who are just thugs, or just buffoons, are all right for minor roles – but there should always be a competent villain to provide a real challenge. It’s fairly common in Disney movies, actually, to use the lesser villains for comic relief.

  5. LadyArin says:

    First: i appreciate the insight on Balaam as well. Reminds me of some of the interesting perspectives my dad has shared with me. 🙂

    In crime shows, i love the criminals who come with the big, red button that says “push me!” – the egomaniac who confesses when the detectives lavish admiration on his fall guy for his genius, the serial killer who locks up with anger when the FBI agent mocks him, the wanna-be-somebody who comes straight to the police station when a press conference implies he’s nothing. Kind of a “pride goeth before destruction” thing.

    I also like the tragic, well-intentioned bad guy, when done well.

    I guess for me, it comes down to passion, in a way. Whether i hate them, feel sorry for them, want to see them redeemed or brought down, the more i feel it, the better i like them.

    Provided that what i feel is the way i’m intended to feel, that is. I still want to see Regina from Once Upon a Time taken down and made to answer for her crimes, but the show is apparently treating her like a “hero” now. Bleck.

    • I guess for me, it comes down to passion, in a way. Whether i hate them, feel sorry for them, want to see them redeemed or brought down, the more i feel it, the better i like them.

      Makes a lot of sense.

      Provided that what i feel is the way i’m intended to feel, that is. I still want to see Regina from Once Upon a Time taken down and made to answer for her crimes, but the show is apparently treating her like a “hero” now. Bleck.

      I only started watching that show this season; I haven’t seen any of the earlier episodes, which affects my perspective. Yet I’m amazed the way they can get over everybody’s crimes but Rumpelstiltskin’s.

      Rumpelstiltskin is, incidentally, the epitome of the intelligent villain … and the sympathetic villain.

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