1. Matthias M. Hoefler says:

    I’ve not thought too highly of Jedi. It’s the movie I watch when I really want to watch New Hope or Empire, but I’ve seen both of them too recently to savor a re-viewing.

     

    For a moment I felt the force of your argument. I like it when someone can enrich something I haven’t put much stock in. It becomes a cool kind of sharing. So thanks!

     

    If you want a good Christian / not Christian film, try Blue Like Jazz. Have you seen it? Steve Taylor of 80s Christian music fame really put something meaningful out there that works as a Christian film, but is very far from the traditional notion of what that is. To the point of offending some Christian folks, I don’t doubt. To the point they say it’s not a Christian film. I’m not explaining it well, but do give it a watch! I wish my friends had pointed me to it years ago.

     

    I might have to watch that tonight. See what you’ve done?

    • Never heard of Blue Like Jazz. I’ll have to look it up.

      It’s not hard for me to understand why people would prefer the earlier movies to Jedi. New Hope is a great ride, and Empire probably has the best-crafted story. Personally, I rank Jedi and Empire pretty close to each other. My least favorite of the trilogy is A New Hope, as it feels a bit uneven and most of the characters had their best moments in the later films.

  2. sparksofember says:

    I’ve always felt the same way about Return of the Jedi.

    I don’t tend to watch many “Christian” labeled movies. Too often, the label also means low-quality or cheesy. I prefer a movie to speak for itself by it’s content.  But I do enjoy movies that make you think and that a Christian perspective colors in ways the makers may not have intended. (Like The Great Waldo Pepper – how lost he is and how differently would the story had gone had he not been trying to fill the void in his heart with earthly things.)

  3. I think perhaps the term “Christian” is thrown around too freely, Shannon.  There seems to be confusion between “clean” and “Christian.” I think Christians can make movies (or write books) with high moral value, but that still doesn’t qualify them as Christian.

    But I suppose that opens up the age old debate: what exactly makes a story “Christian”?

    As far as the Star Wars movies are concerned, I saw the first one and actually wondered if the writer wasn’t a Christian (I knew nothing about him). I thought the suggestion that Darth Vader was Luke’s father in Empire Strikes Back was misdirection. Oh, I was disappointed. No way could Luke be a Christ figure with Satan as his father. 😉

    Yes, I was looking for symbolism wherever I could find it.

    As far as the movies themselves, I’d have to say I was disappointed with each one after Empire, some only mildly so (Return of the Jedi), and some to a greater extent. In many ways I was sorry the second trilogy was made.

    Becky

  4. Ruth says:

    RotJ has always been my favorite. Always. I hate that I feel the need to duck when I admit it as if being emotionally draw to the climax of Luke’s tale makes me not a real fan, but I do. There is something in the final battle (and the score!) between father and son and then that moment where Luke is burning him upon the pyre that gets me every singe time. A bittersweet grief. Its the exact same reason why my favorite Pirates of the Caribbean film is the 3rd one as well (At Worlds End)… the son rescues the father but loses a relationship in the same moment as well. Its a bittersweet end.

    And yes, Christians as so bleeding quick to snap up anything as theirs and put it on this pedestal a mile high… then they forget the flawed humans that made it are *gasp* flawed and they are humiliated and angry when they stumble and somehow feel personally hurt. We need to stop it. I think the craziest films I’ve seen raised up to ‘Christian’  is The Matrix (I used to work in a Christian bookstore and there was a book we got in one time entitled ‘finding God in The Matrix’… the logic was a really stretchy stretch let me tell you). Now  there is some similarity in theme to be sure, and points to be made, but Matrix is gnostic if its anything at all.

  5. Matthias M. Hoefler says:

    Two words: Ewoks.

  6. Alex Mellen says:

    I loved Return of the Jedi too. A lot of factors went into that, including the situation where I watched it, but seeing good finally triumph was so rewarding. One of the most powerful plot devices is a character who gives self-sacrificing love without expecting anything in return. I also appreciated seeing Luke mature as a Jedi and a person. He rescues his friends, accepts the toughest mission, gives himself over to the enemy just so he can try to redeem him, and never compromises. (If you need any more reasons why Luke is cool, read this: http://www.tor.com/blogs/2014/02/you-all-forgot-that-luke-skywalker-is-a-bamf — excuse some language)

     

    And, to stir up some controversy, one film legend I’d love to see labeled as Christian MORE OFTEN is Lord of the Rings. Sure, there’s no direct allegory and Tolkien didn’t want to be overt, but he definitely built Christian themes into the whole thing. And, unlike Star Wars, you don’t have to feel guilty for pulling parallels out of it.

What do you think?