1. Bainespal says:

    I think that “Chesus” is emblematic of everything that I’ve found offensive in Evangelicalism.  No product can bring us closer to God.  There are no mysterious secrets hidden in the latest book or Bible study endorsed by the latest Evangelical celebrity.
     
    Maybe the whole problem with Christian fiction is that it is marketed as a product rather than as art.  I don’t think that there is any such thing as a Christian product.  A product is something you buy to use or consume — how can that be Christian, except in the most superficial sense?  Art, however, contains ideas and worldview, and those ideas can be Christian.

    • Good point. Ideas are Christian – not products. Thanks for the comment.

    • Hmm, I’d suggest that only people are “Christian,” more than “ideas,” i.e. God’s truth, yet not less than ideas. However, we in turn also redeem other things — not as is the popular evangelical conception of “redemption” by imposing some Gospel “on top of” those things, but restoring these things to their rightful use per God’s original creation.

      • Bainespal says:

        Yes, I think you are absolutely right.  I’ve actually said that only people can truly be called Christian from time to time in online discussions, but I was thinking that maybe it was a little too extreme to say that in the light of Christian fiction.  Ultimately, I don’t think it matters very much whether or not we call any particular Christian’s fiction “Christian.”

  2. Galadriel says:

    The “Chessus” factor is why I tend to refrain from certain pictures or posts on Facebook. They just seem so gimmicky that (even though I know people mean well) I feel like I’m making a mockery of the faith. That’s not to say I don’t like the occasional Bible versus or anything, but…yeah, “Chessus.” Good term.

    • I know what you mean about some of the posts. Secretly you feel bad for not sharing them, but you just can’t bring yourself to do it. I know they are brothers and sisters in the Lord and all, but sometimes you have family members you just don’t “get”. 

      I’m pretty sure if they had twitter in the early church days the disciples wouldn’t have always agreed with each other’s posts either.

      @Saul2Paul “Totally did what I didn’t want 2 do today. But when I did it, it wasn’t me doing it but the old me doing what I don’t want to do. Can I get a RT?”

      @PeteDaRock “Dude. I have no clue what you mean.”

      @BelovedJohn “I see dragons.”

      @PeteDaRock “@BelovedJohn You need to get out more, bro.”

      @Saul2Paul “@PeteDaRock. He’s on Patmos.”

      @PeteDaRock “Sorry. My bad.”

  3. R. L. Copple says:

    I think most of us authors are concerned that either we will inadvertently promote some heretical idea or lend itself to a heretical interpretation and end up leading people astray. We are, after all, human. Not God. Not infallible.  So it will probably happen no matter how careful we thing we are being. That’s where you have to leave it in God’s hands. I felt God told me one time when I was worried about how well I would handle something, “Do your best and I’ll do the rest.”
     
    I too had to laugh, in a sad way, at the Cheesus thing. But it encapsulates what is wrong with this approach. It mocks holiness. Similar to the Catholic theme park advertized on the back of a Catholic magazine in 1997. Had a water slide called, “The Baptizer.” I couldn’t believe it. Just surreal.
     

    • RE: “The Baptizer”  You know deep inside you wish you could have done it.
      I’m with you on the whole wrestling with your words thing. My faith is the very reason I write. I can’t imagine writing without faith – it just doesn’t even seem worthwhile to me. We are, however, makers of myths. That always worries me. I guess when I stop being worried about it, I’ll know its time to quit. Worry can be a good thing. It keeps us in check.

  4. The toaster is simultaneously hilarious and horrifying.
     
    I question my own writing, as well–but then I’ve experimented with preaching in stories for years, and all it ever did was turn people off. (Although the Christians liked it. Go figure.) I have much better reach with Just Good Stories where the good guys win after a tremendous struggle against the odds. Heck, the better ones feature a bad guy who shifted his alignment toward good guy after he learned to love.

  5. Fred Warren says:

    When you look at the public reaction to Jesus’ teaching, if you’re offending some fraction of your audience, being accused of madness or heresy, inspiring critique of your moral character, and having a few folks question whether you should be allowed to continue consuming oxygen on this planet, you’re probably right on target.

  6. D.M. Dutcher says:

    If you ever want an entertaining evening, go to Goodreads and pick fifty books you think are classics. Then read the one-star reviews for them. You can pick the most inoffensive, sure-fire classic book and find people trashing it roundly. I wouldn’t worry much about negative reviews.
    The Christian manufactured kitsch, I do worry about. There’s a difference between a work that tries, but isn’t skilled, like a book, and one which is purely useless except in a vaguely ironic sense, like the toaster above. 

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